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Can weak back extensions and anterior pelvic tilt relate?


Mason Hackel, [04/10/2022 22:16]

Question for you guys - I have anterior pelvic tilt. Also, my back extension is weak.

Could those be related?

For now, I’ve upped my focus on it, at least 3 times/week no more than 5 sets.

Ben Patrick, [04/10/2022 22:41]

@theQuadsofATG in my book… Structural Balance for the win. Diagnosis of symptom-free people for the loss. I’ve seen you in person and here’s my diagnosis of you:

You have Ain’t-Nothin-Wrong-With-You-You-Freaky-Athletic-Mofo Disease.

Your potential is absurd. Your strong, lean, flexible, etc. Keep bringing up your weakest link. Realize how many people need painkillers and surgeries just to get through the day-to-day. That’s not you. You’re unreal compared to a normal person. Keep extending that.

That’s the cool thing about real world experience is working with so many clients you see how messed up so many bodies are. Literally can’t press overhead. Literally can’t do a 6” step up. Literally can’t get to the knees on an RDL. It gives perspective. Like how healthy would you expect a back that can’t do 5 pounds on a trap-3 raise?

That’s real shit. Diagnose all you won’t but human bodies have deviated from what’s natural. Let’s at least get the basics in. And human life isn’t in the clouds. It’s normal to feel your body being human. It’s normal to be more flexible in a workout than cold. But now look at how many people can’t even touch their toes cold?

And take 10 different band-aids to for years… to still be scared to bend over and touch their toes. So I think as trainers we have to give ourselves a TON of credit for helping our clients get the basics in. The basics, alone, make super humans compared to the norm. And Structural Balance is our diagnosis. Pain-free expression is our diagnosis. Measurable range of motion is our diagnosis. Every session is diagnosis. But of ability - not disability or labels.

Kendall Banks, [04/10/2022 22:56]

I just figured out your point! Lol took a sec. Anterior pelvic tilt is a diagnosis? Structural balance will restore what we want without diagnosing, is that right?

Ben Patrick, [04/10/2022 23:15]

@KendallAB have no weak or tight links compared to the norm… 

It’s kind of like, someone with a purposeful job, supportive partner, nature, real food, etc., would be less likely for a mental diagnosis than someone who, does a job that doesn’t help (or harms) people, has an abusive spouse, no nature, fake food…

In training so many people, I just see so much room for improvement of abilities, and so little need for diagnosis COMPARED to the norm. Basics have to be in for me to entertain diagnosis of “things wrong with us” when I can see the person is functioning just fine. If you literally can’t sit down like a normal person because your knee won’t bend to 90, I’m not going to advise split squats! Something is wrong! But I’ve seen Mason and he’s wayyyyy fitter than the norm. But yes there is NO WAY Mason’s hips are balanced to his quads. No way. Hence structural balance.

I had a 425 deadlift and 155 front squat. I also had a long list of diagnosed knee conditions. I did not pay any attention to their names or what they mean. I got structurally balanced. All gone.

That’s the literal example of what I’m referring to. And 99+% of people I’ve tested have glaring weak or tight links. So at ATG that’s our job. Our job ain’t diagnosis. Leave that to the pros at that. Let’s be pros at structural balance. Let’s be pros at helping clients improve their weak/tight links.

We don’t have to compare whether that is more valuable than diagnosis. Talking doesn’t matter. Just action. And that’s valuable action. That’s the purpose of an ATG Coach.

Trying to be EVERYTHING can prevent you from being effective at SOMETHING.

And VALUE = scarcity.

So right now it’s still tremendously scarce to find a coach who knows and can improve structural balance. Less than 1% of 1%. So we should give ourselves credit and be great at our jobs. 

Our caring nature makes us want to answer every question and be everything to everyone. But let’s start with the basics.

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