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Knee Pain During New Movements

Dalton Dykes, [16/06/2022 03:17]

I keep getting knee pains is this normal while having the adaptations to the new movements? It does not hurt during exercise but I can feel it at certain movements during normal life and the only other thing differently I’ve started was the knee exercises. Anybody else have that? Just wanting some reassurance haha love the programs for sure though

Ben Patrick, [16/06/2022 23:35]

@Dalton_Dykes It's an interesting phenomenon, because it's been the most powerful stuff on earth at getting people LESS KNEE PAIN. I think for someone who hasn't trained with full range of motion from a young age (for example Chinese olympic weightlifters are doing knees over toes fully squats from age 5) there's a lot of new awareness and people often over-test their knees in real life. The interesting thing about a knee is you could be completely cold and mess around with stuff that might cause pain. Same thing would occur if out of nowhere you tried to do handstand pushups or something and weren't used to it. So in general if someone is newer to ATG, and is NOT trying to get out of knee pain, I'd surely advise having some goals about what you're trying to do and why. Then understanding that there are different versions of yourself. Usain Bolt completely cold might injure his hamstring trying to sprint, and might not be anywhere near as fast as he is warm. But I'll still bet completely cold he'd be pretty damn fast!

So @Dalton_Dykes I think it comes down to understanding of the human body and life. A human body doesn't become more resistant to pain and injury by avoiding hard things. In fact that's the faster route to decay, it through avoidance. BUT it takes time for a human body to adapt, and the route to a more bulletproof body also doesn't favor overdoing something to early in the process

The sun does wonderful things for the body...or gives you a sunburn. In areas of life where you see people struggling, there's simply lack of understanding. And the way life works isn't by avoidance but rather by facing things on a level you can handle, and increasing what you can handle.

“Provided that technique is learned accurately under expert supervision and with progressive training loads, the deep squat presents an effective training exercise for protection against injuries and strengthening of the lower extremity. Contrary to commonly voiced concern, deep squats do not contribute increased risk of injury to passive tissues.”

The greatest research every done on deep squats was over 2 years analyzing 164 research papers.

I even found your meniscus and other internal structures strengthen and grow and that degeneration actually happens moreso to those who don't use full range of motion.

You can enter that quote in google and the full thing comes right up. So @Dalton_Dykes I would suggest learning more about how the body works, and having some goals for what you're trying to achieve for yourself and others

Studying while having skin in the game is the best way to become a great coach

A sprint coach not trying to sprint faster, a jump coach not trying to jump higher...

I have seen some really terrible examples of what happens when a coach is not rooted firmly in results and doesn't actually understand how training WORKS

EVERY day I see life-changing wins now for joints - NOT EVEN FROM ME, but from other coaches here with their own clients...

To get more bulletproof joints is a great step toward helping others do the same but there are many different goals a coach could have.

Many of the most famous strength coaches reach out to me now privately... TO THANK ME FOR SAVING THEIR JOINTS.

So someone could be a great bodybuilding coach, but privately be on painkillers for their knees.

There hasn't ever been a mainstream system to teach us how to increase pain-free ability to our joints and spine. There ARE many systems that have done this but nothing I would call mainstream.

There would not have been Kneesovertoesguy if I hadn't been through nasty surgical alterations and painkiller addiction and been unable to play my sport for years...

@Dalton_Dykes it's a good thing you haven't been through such stuff! But it's interesting that those who have, can understand how this stuff works much easier.

In your case you may have to do extra study, and get more reps training others, etc., while having some goals for your own body.

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